Please provide any info you can on Messmers, and also any other products you have found that are good versus those that are not good for log homes. Thanks.
How long have you been using the Messmers Timberflex Alaskan Home Formula, and is it any different from their other formulas? I've never heard of a stain lasting 10 years! Tell me more about how it was determined that it would last 10 years.
I have spent years in Log Home Finishes industry, and in my experience I have found Sashco Transformation Stain to hold up as long if not longer than the competition if you like a glossy finish.
If you are going for a matte finish, High Sierra is another great product also by Sashco, or Liifeline by Perma-Chink. This is not to say these products are the "best", I will leave those discussions for people way smarter than me, but these products have held up very well for my customers over the years.
I used Sashco Capture/Cascade on the exterior of my douglas fir home. easy to apply and worked well so far. getting some sun damage so we have "touched up" areas of damage twice in 5 years. seems to lose its ability to bead water after 2-3 years so I have reapplied the clear coat twice now. really spifs up the house with a new coat of clear and doesn't affect the color, which is nice. Had front gates made of douglas fir that are in full weather, had a product from the factory that was worthless (won't mention the name) and since found Sashco's Transformation oil stain that works fantastic. really good semi-transparent stain that has held up 4 years now on my fully exposed gates. We hit it with a new coat once a year and it doesn't peel or chip. hope this helps.....also found that an Osborne buffing brush is a great way to prep your logs for staining. really buffs the log to a nice finish.
I like the Timber Pro UV all natural stain. We have used this product with amazing results for the past 4 years. They ship on time, have incredible product, colors and customer service. Try calling Sherry at 1-877-666-4244. We used the stains on log homes and i used it on the cedar shake on my own home. I am more than happy with the color and the results. You can check them out at timberprocoatings.com
I feel that Ultra 2 stain from permachink is one of the best waterbase stains out there,you apply 2 coats
of stain follow with one coat of top coat will give you a 3 year warrenty,and if you apply another
top coat within the 3 years you can extend your warrenty for another 2 years.easy to apply and easy
maintance.The top coats come in satin or gloss,so homeowner said that by appling the gloss topcoat
it will tend to keep the carpenter bees away because they do not like the shine.
Hundreds of satisfied customers can't be wrong, Greg!
Ultra-2 is a great product, just remember that your log preparation is the key to any log stain longevity. Inadequate prep will cut the life in half or even more.
The 3 most important facts about any stain survival:
1. Start with bare wood. If it has an existing finish remove it.
2. Make sure the surface is prepped with an Osbourne brush or sanded (40-60 grit)
3. Surface pH around 6.5 - 7.5. You can buy test strips at a pool supply store. LogWash is an excellent product for neutralizing the wood surface.
Those would be my recommendations. I'm sure others may add to that, but this is a summary.
All stains are good if it is specifically made for a log home. I recommend a semi-transparent stain made for log homes so that it will breath with the log home.
Of course the darker pigmented stains will give you a little bit more longevity however any stain out there will only last between 3 to 5 years depending on where you get hit with the UV.
I found out that it is not what stain you want, it all boils down to what color.
Make sure you purchased a stain that is going to breath with the wood.
Picking the right stain is definitely not the easiest thing and site preparation is probably the most important, no matter what you put down. I originally had Sansin, water-based, stain on my logs and was also told by the log builder/supplier that a darker stain will last longer than a light stain...does anyone know about that?
Now, my logs are looking bleak on the South facing side and I'm sanding down to the wood and using Natural Natural an oil based product by Sikkens. I've used Sikkens on my wood deck of the non-log home and am very pleased with its performance...we'll see how well it does with the logs.
Douglas, Hi I'm CJ from Va. Our log delivery is scheduled for May 2009. We have seen one log home stained with Sansin. The owners used 2 coats, as the first coat they felt was not dark enough. Choosing the right type of stain is very difficult. We will do the staining ourselves. Kinda scary I think. Don't want to make any mistakes. What was your biggest complaint about the Sansin? Can you please help me out? Thanks. CJ from Va.
CJ - Choosing a stain doesn't have to be scary! Email me at cbabcock@sashco.com for a copy of a booklet we have called "Keeping the Dream Alive". It's a good educational piece that goes through the steps of finishing a log home from beginning to end, including giving you some tips on what type (not brand) of stain to use. I think part of the scariness is just not knowing how to go about it all. Hopefully, this document will arm you with some good knowledge and help you feel more comfortable with the whole process. And, of course, feel free to email me with any questions, as well. My opinions will be somewhat biased, as I work for Sashco and know we make great products. However, my main goal is to help log home owners like you get the information and answers they need to make informed decisions and get the job done right the first time.