I am currently looking at purchasing a 30 year old business that supplies the Log Home Market. What is your thought about buying an existing business in today's log home market? Sales have dropped in half since 2006 and not sure where the bottom is........Your comments would be appreciated.
Also best wishes for the new editorial position and I will miss your articles esp the editor's note. They always made me smile. I was hoping I would get to bump into you at a log home show in the future but maybe I still will. Thank you for making a great log home magazine and this website.
Best wishes on your future endeavors and know that you will be greatly missed. LHL, under your editorial direction, provided me with countless ideas for our new cabin - a virtual "How To" manual! Also, from one baseball parent to another, best luck on the diamond - where good times are REALLY made.
Once again - you'll be missed,
You know what I find interesting? ... the more people we get into our group the less likely they are looking at previous postings that spoke to the same issue they are concerned with. I don't know how many people have written about about the pitfalls of building a log home when the subject has been delt with in many previous postings. I for one have shared with members my actual cost estimates in building a log home but no sooner that I post it someone someplace else asks the same question. After a while I run out of ideas as to how to help our people.
I am attaching the posting that I recently sent which, I think, does more than just talk in generalities about the cost implications of building a log home ... at least as it impacted me. Let me know what you think. Ted
You have gotten some great advise Colleen and you should consider all that was suggested. I hope that my experiences will give you another perspective. I bought 3 plus acres of land near Waynesville, NC. I got a septic permit for a three bedroom home. The driveway was already in. The property is relatively flat so excavation is not a factor. The big unknown is the cost for drilling a well. I could go own a couple of hundred feet or a thousand feet or more.
I originally got quotes from a half a dozen log home manufacturers but found that their estimates differed so much that I decided to speak directly with a builder who could do the whole building job for me... from excavation to foundation to well drilling to purchase of the logs. And then build the entire building. So that I would have a closed in (locked) building, including all windows and doors. He would construct all interior partition walls but would not finish them. He would put on the roof sheathing and felt paper but not the roof shingles. His price included backfill, gravel driveway and basic grass seeding.
I would be responsible for all interior work including (but not limited to) closing in all rooms, electrical rough in and finish, plumbing rough in and finish, HVAC, cabinets, all appliances, light fixtures, interior doors, locks, flooring, water heaters, tiling, painting or staining, fireplace or masonry work. The furniture would come from my current house.
The bottom line. Here is how my numbers worked out. The house by the way is about 2000 square feet. The land cost $50k. The builder will do his share of the construction for approximately $200k. My share of the construction budget comes to $95k. That comes to a total of $345k ... $172.00 per square foot. Since I don't know how elaborate you plan to make your house, your costs my go up or down.
I hope that this information is helpful. It is fairly current so the numbers should be fairly reliable.
Personally, I found that dealing with a builder rather than with a log home manufacturer could save me a lot of money. On the other hand a lot of people feel more comfortable going through a log home manufacturer.
If you have any questions about my numbers or are not clear about something I said, please let me know. If it is helpful to you, my email address is email@example.com.
Hi Michael, I was wondering how hard it would be to add the page buttons for the next page like 1 ,2, 3, etc at the top of the forum pages also so to jump to the second or third page so you wouldn't have to scroll all the way down to the bottom. Thanks ,just a suggestion to make it easier to navigate.
When I was a teenager my family went on a trip to Kentucky Lake and stayed by a cabin. I never thought a cabin could grab ahold of your like the first one that I stepped in. From that point on I have always wanted to live in a log cabin. Although that time has not crossed my path yet I'm doing my research now. I have been building log furniture for 7 years now and ever piece I make is a one of a kind. So were am I going with this you say. Each creation whether a piece of log furniture or log cabin has a sense of passion. Anyone who owns a log cabin and loves it as much as I do knows exactly were I'm going with this. There are so many special times that come with owning a log cabin, friends hanging out, holidays with the family, and of course being with your dogs by the fireplace! There is no greater love or passion then having a log cabin and having God bless you with everything! This is the true feeling that ever cabin has personality!!!!!!!!!!
My hubby and i are just getting started in the hunt for our dream cabin. Every six months we plan a weekend getaway to the Hill Country up in Texas, where we'll spend a peaceful weekend to reconnect and make plans for life after kids (Son in college soon with daughter to follow). We are in our second home, the first being a started home and with the kids getting older we needed more room, which we now have. Our plan is to locate land somewhere in the Hill Country and build a 1500-1800 2BR 1story ranch style cabin. I've read that there are "Log Home Communities with lots for sale, but i'm not sure if any are in the Hill Country area that are not "budget busters" Do you have any info. on such a thing. We want to build a cabin, but not duplicate what we have in a 3,600 sq ft. hm. second home as far as $$$.
In-Short, we want a getway place to rest...be at peace, not be stressed out homw owners dues, seeing or hearing people next door etc.
I have been a subscriber to log home living for 2 years now and I didnt recieve the callender for 2009, is there any chance you could get me one, I sure enjoyed the last one, Thanks. Greg Beck, Also, I'd love to see an article about copper counter tops in a future issue !
Hi Michael. I just got my copies of Log Home living and Log Home Design. ¥ou might want to check the dates for the Tamp log Home show. There are 2 different dates on two separate pages (unless I'm reading it wrong).
By the way, as usual, your editorial was insightful, warm and friendly.
Hi Mike, Just wanted to share with you the comments we have received regarding the "You Dream-We Design" feature. Friends, neighbors and strangers alike commented about what a nice job you and your staff did on the article. Thanks again for a great job. I have posted the link to "We are Members of the Log Home Neighborhood" on our website (made the "we" change in your code). By the way, we have two pages one under Ted & Bonnie Steele and one under Ted & Bonnie Steele, Mountain Venture Properties, LLC our NC business setup. Can we combine them, friends etc?
Best Regards, Ted & Bonnie Steele
I just received my LHL magazine and found my favorite kitchen on page 45. That is the picture I carried around with me for months when shopping for granite. I now have those rough edges and a rough backsplash, as well. The pictures are on my page. You all have been such a tremendous inspiration. Thanks! Anne
Michael...I'm sorry to hear about your families' loss. I'm sure you miss him/her dearly. You are so right about retrievers and labs needing work/exercise. Timber absolutely begs for it whether it's chasing squirrels & birds, chewing on sticks, swimming, you name it! And no matter where we are or how small the space, he wants to be there. We've had him almost a year now and I can't imagine what our life was like before him.
Thanks for the advice. I agree. I've been gathering information for about two years. In fact, my friends think my excessive file on log homes... border on the ridiculous! I had a small log cabin about eight or nine years ago and sold it to a business friend just before the big real estate boom (wouldn't you know it). I learned a lot from that experience, but all I did was pick out the lot.. a log home company just modified one of their plans to suit me...however, it really didn't - not long term I mean. Though, thanks to that experience, I know more today what I want and maybe more important, what I don't want. Thanks again for the reply. Susan
I was just thinking about some of the things that would help and/or would be of interest for future log home builders. It's nice to share photos or human interest stories about ourselves but I think it would be just as meaningful if we could get some hard information from those who have been there before us. Specifically, there are so many parts to the construction process that would save us novices much time and money if we could get some information from current owners before we took the plunge.
For example, being even more specific, wouldn't it be helpful if we could get some guidance on the process of ; (1) getting building permits, septic permits, well drilling permits, (2) pros and cons of being your own General Contractor vs. hiring a contractor to handle the whole job , (3) if you go the route of being your own GC how best to screen and hire the subs and what subs will you need? (4) What problems can we expect in well drilling? How deep can one expect to drill? (5) How do you communicate with your excavator to be certain that you will get the topography you want? Are these discussions or formal drawings? Anything special with contracts? What, problems did you run into, if any? (6) The same general questions hold true for other contractors, ie, foundation contractor, septic contractor, well contractor, electrical contractor, plumbing contractor, landscape contractor, HVAC contractor, flooring contractor, roofing contractor, painting contractor and any other sub you can think of.
Probably most of our readers don't have the time to answer every concern but it sure would be helpful if they contributed to any part of the building quandary.
Glad you ask . We have had a wonderful combination , dead standing timber and Amish carpenters . We actually built through the winter . We have not been impacted at all. We have put on another crew they are not Amish , we got a little ahead of ourselves.
Thanks For Asking